Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Another slow week...

Many bags of frozen veggies
40 lbs all purpose flour
20 lbs self rising flour
20 lbs sugar
3 lbs honey

Some range time with the rifles. God, I love .308 and .30-06! :s9:

How about y'all?

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Another trip to sams for us:
More Spam, Honey, Canned salmon, sardines (against wife's protest), 6 more cases of misc canned veggies and fruit.

Also bought a round of meat to go into the new freezer.

Coming on the 13th: Canning session at the LDS cannery. Should bring home around 200lbs of canned food. Also picking up a case of LDS peanut butter, best peanut butter ever.

Food stocks for 1+ years are looking pretty good, next area of concentration is getting the propane tank topped off, buying more portable propane tanks, aquiring propane generator to replace gas portable and then stocks of diesel and kerosene.

Oh yeah, took the new AR to the range.. I like things that go boom. Problem is cost of ammo, i wish it would go back down in price.

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

8 lbs honey here.

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

everyone seems to be buying honey what are you paying for those small
amounts?

I have not looked at retail honey for a very long time

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

100 pounds of rice
50 pounds of sugar
20 pounds of oatmeal
10 pounds of salt
15 pounds of green coffee beans.
5 pounds of powder milk
spices..all stacked in my dining room waiting on my order of Mylar bags.
I received my three orders of starter kits form the Latter Day Saints and am starting to organize the preps for my Daughters

A 4 pack of really cool flashlights that you wind up to recharge.
Filled two small propane tanks for the gas grill

Have been locating water on the property to test

fired my shot gun again and it went better but I still don't like it.

Am going to meet with my Investor and take more money out of my mutal fund, wait for a dip and by more metals.

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Whole lot more than you're selling it for is my guess.... :D

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

damoc,
Try this linky out:
www.honeylocator.com
All sorts and sizes...
I spoke with a nice fellow yesterday who is gonna
harvest in mid March and sell me 5 gallons for 100 bucks each five gallon lot.
Haystackneedle

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

price seems good but if this honey is being pulled of the hives in mid
march its last years (most likely) and has a very good chance of having
unwanted chemical residues from mite treatments (the beekeeper may not
use any but that is unlikely)however he may just have some summer honey
he has had stored in one form or another which he is going to extract or
tap in march which is perfectly fine.

unless you are in southern hemisphere its very very hard to get fresh
honey of the hives in march its not that the honey goes bad its what
may have been used in the hives during fall winter and spring.
including just plain sugar and corn syrup

most feb and march honey flow is eaten up by the bees in early brood
rearing.

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Just wanted to comment real quick. Im new so Ill try not to ruffle feathers.
Im a chef(baker) so I want to help people out in the food area as much as possible

Return the self rising flour if you can. It is a wasted investment unless you intend on using that 20lbs in the next 6 months. Even then, its still pretty iffy. Self rising flour is nothing more than AP(all purpose) flour with baking powder. It is extreamly unreliable in any long terms sense and is frankly just uneeded. Active dry and instant yeast would be your best bet for leavening in a SHTF scenario, or fat(butter, egg yolks) which is steam leavnening like in biscuits. Return the self rising and get some hard flour, which is bread flour or High Gluten flour and some pastry and/or cake flour(soft flour). If you really want the baking soda leavening, just by well sealed, or possibly freeze dried(if you can find, I dunno) baking soda. It is wasted entirley in self rising.

Also, like you probably know, seal your flour as air tight as all holy heck. Oxy absorbers, rubber gaskets, all of it. Otherwise your shelf life on regular milled and treated flour(any kind) is not going to last past a year before gluten break down causes issues.

Just trying to help :):smokin:

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

www.beefolks.com

I get all my honey for baking in the bakery and at home from here. It seems to have gone up in price but i like them and their products. I buy by the gallons. They use no checmicals in any step of production for a majority of their honey. Raw honey is always a safe bet as well. Since honey can store for literaly an eternity, raw honey is an amazing assest to have in any condition.

But you are right about the chemical treatment. I try to stay away from it, mostly for flavor issues, but health ones as well. But if thats al that available, its still better than not having any at all!

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

No ruffled feathers here! All information is welcome.

I don't store a large amount of self rising flour as compared to all purpose. Also, all grains and legumes I store are vacuum sealed in mylar with O2 absorbers and are rotated pretty regularly. I don't believe any stay packed away for more than eight or ten months before getting used.

Thanks again for the info!

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Thanks Damoc,
if my fuzzzzzy memory of
reading massive quantities of GIM stuff
serves me,
then you are certainly speaking from experience.
:wink:
I am in Florida and I buy occasionally throughout the year
in one gallon units...and it goes for 20 a gallon mostly...
This is a local guy and he works in the groves.
Regards,
Haystackneedle

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Despite the whacky Feb. weather I managed to put up 1/2 cord of wood for the 08/09 winter. Since wood is our primary heat source it's good to stay ahead of the game as best I can.

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

That certainly sounds like the best proccess!

But, again, remember that most AP flour is very chemicaly treated which breaks down some of its nutritonal value. If you have the option, try to buy winter wheat whole berries(or any of the whole berries from a hard wheat) and mill it when you need flour. This of course would be AFTER SHTF when nutrition will be even more vital.

Kitchen aid, and subsequently Hobart, make some really good acessories for just this task: small batch milling. The whole berries keep longer and have better nutrtional value as there is less processing. Then you can mill a few pounds to over 10 pounds of flour whenver you need it.

Also, for other who might not know, if you are looking to retain as close to organic as possible but are limited, go with unbleached flour. It keeps nutrition better. The benefits of bleached flour arent enough to sacrafice the nutritional value.

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Found 3 SAEs $1 under spot ...

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

I just bought honey in bulk from http://www.millershoney.com/honeynews.htm, 65lbs (5 gallons) of it was $65 (it's listed for $69 now) and the stuff is fantastic! Shipped & packaged well and excellent customer service. :thumbs up

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

QWAK,You guys sort of spooked me a bit so I bought 10 lb of rice today (I dont't even like rice) 10 small caned hams, 8 cans of samon,10 cans of sardeans,4 quorts of honey and 4 pints of extra Virgen Olive oil (I don't cook but you said it was best and good to have) WOW is that stuff expencive!!:hahaha:

Must be REAL hard to find Exrta Virgins thease days?:questionm:questionm:questionm

I also picked up 2 5 qt.jugs of motor oil --- shure glad the truck don't use Virgin OIL or I would have to take out a LOAN!:wink::s9:

I feel a bit more secure now -- I guess:dontknow::questionm:congrats:

the DUCK

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Had a busy week - I've got to grade some papers, so I'll chime in later.

However, since baking supplies seemed to be popular this week, I thought I'd contribute this link. Apparently, baking powder doesn't have that long a shelf-life, so here's a way to make your own....
http://www.ochef.com/790.htm

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Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Shipping on 65 lbs of goods ?

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Finally got around to getting some food, food prep and hygiene items:
20 lbs. Jasmine rice
5 lbs. grits
3 lbs. oatmeal
3 tubes toothpaste
2 aluminum-free deodorant
12 each rechargeable AA and AAA batteries
4 lbs. spaghetti
400 ft aluminum foil
24 rolls TP
50 books matches
1 case Evan Williams Black Kentucky bourbon 1.75 L (10% case discount!!)
200 rd Winchester Ranger .40 S&W JHP
15 rd Winchester 2 3/4" 00 buck, and....

http://www.maverickarms.com/pages/im...s/31023big.gif
One Mossberg Maverick 88 12 gauge pump shotgun

Also started cleaning out some 5 gal buckets. The school cafeteria gets pickle slices in them, and I have access to as many as I want. The only problem is getting the pickle smell out of them!

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

sat...........sks ammo, 22 lr ammo, collapsable water containers[5 gal]. sunday stainless steel two burner propane camp stove, hand crank lantern/radio/cellphone charger. led lights, will be able to use 1,3 or 5 of the elements. i like stuff that don't require batteries. recieved the two tools needed for the vw van,axel nut wrench and 12 point cv joint fastener socket. that gives me all the tools for maint/repair. also got 40 qt. cooler for van. canned beef,spam,tuna,sardines,kippered herring,8 lbs spaghetti[whole wheat] above purchased in portland or, wal mart. about 170 bux, plus two gallon fuel for running around. the loveflower and daughter bethany are out of town visiting relatives in seattle, have coupla days to get pantry and kitchen installed in van. and if the world doesn't end, we can have quite a lot of fun camping this summer! good thread nco, gives me a good journal for prep, and other members help with stuff i forget. mike in portland,orygun

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

New to this site and enjoying the info and the wit.

2 cases of vegatables.
150 rds of 223
16oz honey and 72 rolls of TP
sure is expensive to add to prepd now days
tj

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Hello Lars,
I have some of those as well I scammed from the
dumpster at the sub shop....
Even with the windows down I thought I would not
make it home...hah
Anyways, I filled each up with water
and let them sit outside for some days...
think I changed the water out once, dumping it on the shrubs...
And all was well...
Good source for buckets IMHO
Regards,
Haystackneedle

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Finally got my Wood Stove!!! WooHoo!

Filled up a propane tank.

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Try this place
Browning's Honey


9019 N 5th E
Idaho Falls, ID 83401
(208) 523-3692

I'm getting 24lbs (2.5 gallons) of raw honey for $35

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Added TP, beans and canned goods.

I'd like to recommend to all those headlamp type flashlights, rechargeable batteries for them, and a solar charger. Cabelas sells some good quality ones. They put light where you are looking and leave your hands free.

My wife thought they were stupid till she wanted to look for something where light did not reach well and needed both hands. Now she has tried the headlamp she loves it.

That guy who wrote about the currency collapse in Argentina caught my attention saying how great a headlamp was for washing dishes at night with the power off.

For anything like that they are great and the LED ones are bright enough for most purposes and last a very long time. Yhe LEDs last many more use hours than other kinds of bulbs, and the LEDs drain the battery very slowly. We use LED ones with 2 brightness settings.

Besides chores they will be good for reading at night if the power is off.

I'm going to order 2 more next month. We have 2 but they are so useful I want backups.

I think I will order 2 of these

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...lamp&noImage=0

50 hours before you need to put in recharged batteries at the bright setting is great.

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Got caught in a grocery store during an outage once. No drama unfolded, but I felt pretty dumb with CCW (prepared) and nothing to look at (unprepared). Even a little squeeze cheapo LED is worthwhile to carry....I now carry 2. At work I use a Sunlite-Slim and love it. AAA batteries. Used to carry Stylus, but was unreliable and I did not like AAAA batts.
Home has G2's for weps and a neat little Brinkmann 1W. AAA and end cap switch, no settings- just on/off.
Also :emotions16:on rechargeables and solar. Have really enjoyed the transition to Eneloops from plain NiMH.
Most preps for the week are good. G&A well covered. Hesitant to go any deeper with that category.
Costco trips increasing in frequency, hitting the beans and rice. Next trip is more oil-any and all, paper, additional fuel.
Making last required purchases of wheat tomorrow. Hope to nab some soy beans too.
Reconditioning old propane galley oven for exterior use-really happy to have found it.
Realized the food list is close enough to done. Now FRN's must go to homestead infrastucture.
Also looking to get new Benjamin Discovery in .22. That could be handy.

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

$30 bucks to my door from CA to northeastern MT. Of course, everything has to me mail-order up in these parts! lol

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Thanks for the tip, Haystack! Yeah, the smell can be - let's just say -- overpowering. One Friday I picked a bunch up during my lunch break and put them in my Jeep. After mellowing for the next 4 hours in the hot sun, even with the windows cracked, the ride home was pretty putrid! Luckily, it's only about three miles!

Then it gets better. I got wrapped up in something right after I got home, and forgot about them until Sunday. My Jeep had "that smell" for about a month!

I had already tried something before I saw your post - I wet down the bucket and then hand-smeared some baking soda throughout the inside - then let it sit outside for a day. Then when I saw your post, I decided to fill it with water (leaving the baking soda) and let THAT sit for another day or two. I'll have to say, after a day airing out with the baking soda, the odor was barely noticeable.

A little work, but the price is right! And these are the good ones - 90 mils. Another plus is that you can be pretty sure they're safe to use for pickling if you're so inclined!

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Very busy week.
Costco:
2- kirkland coffee 3 pound cans $8.29

Meijer:
12 cans hunts spaghetti* sauce 26.5ounce 80cents a can (going to buy another 2-3 dozen before sale ends)
6 bags pioneer sugar 5pound each $1.99

Walmart:
4 550round federal bulk packs .22lr $11.97each

Aimsurplus:
2 tins 800 rounds each 7.62x25 $59.99each

century arms:
1 tin 1,080rounds 1990's spam canned 5.45x39 $119.87
6 250round packs S&B .32acp $39.87 each
1 tin 800 rounds 7.62x25 $64.00
-free shipping because I broke the $500 mark by ordering something else for a friend

Bought a bunch of other stuff this week food related but nothing I consider 'set back' stuff, it'll be used in a month. Yeah I guess I went a bit nuts on ammo, but the prices are rock bottom on what I bought (except the .22lr, but I have this thing about not being able to go into a walmart without buying atleast 2 boxes of .22lr... it's like a rule).

*Hunts spaghetti sauce is a decent sauce as it comes strait out of the can, but with a bit of seasoning it rivals the best sauces you can buy in a traditional grocery store.

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

I'm seeing some of you guys list 1-3000 rounds of ammo a week and other food preps...

How on earth can you guys keep this up. i just bought 2500 rounds and I'm pretty much done until at least the end of summer.

This week I got 4 cans of chunk light tuna and some q-tips.:D

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Is the 7.62 for a CZ? That's cheap ammo, how do you like the gun? I'm unfamiliar with it. (if it's not, wha the heck is it for?)

And what do you fire the 5.45 with. That is cheap!

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

I've bought several recent preps but pasta has been my big concern because of the wheat futures rising so much - I'm expecting huge price increases to work down the chain to the supermarket level for bread, pasta, etc.

Pasta can be kept dry and edible for decades... so I was very happy to find a local store called Swann's Panty selling 3 pound boxes of Weis brand spaghetti for $1.59/box - just 53 cents per pound.

In general though, Wally World has the best prices for half of what I've been looking for

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Hey, tuna's good! And there's thousands of uses for Q-Tips!

Yeah, I've stepped up my prepping - finally heeded the advice that's been circulated around here for awhile - liquidate FRN holdings and convert them into preps.

I think the guns and ammo theme has a lot to do with the upcoming elections. None of the remaining presidential candidates IMO will support the 2nd Amendment, hence the "get it while you can" mentality is predominant. And it's not just here - I'm sure you've noticed all of the "Out of Stock" and "Shipping Delay" notices on many of the online ammo sites.

And I think the other part of it is many people are starting to believe that the sh!t has already started hitting the fan, at least economically. If/When a breakdown of social order occurs, I'd like to be prepared enough to at least make an attempt to defend myself and my family, and not wait for local law enforcement to do it for me....

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Yep. I've now got about 150 6oz cans of tuna, and 150 6oz cans of salmon that has expiration dates in mid to late 2011. I eat fish like crazy, so no problems with rotation here.

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Believe you are right on target, so to speak, Lars.

I've been buying mostly reloading components of late. Had a order returned as out of stock from Midway ( who has to be one of the largest reloading places in the country ) for some common stuff like Remington .30 180gr bullets. Told them to just hold the money until back in stock, that was a couple weeks ago, and this morning I got an email saying it was now being shipping. Lead times are getting longer and longer......

On another note, FedEx truck brought the last of my Walton Order from months ago the other day. Most of it came motor freight some weeks back, but the truck line had a wreck, my stuff was repacked on another pallet, and some of it "fell off the truck" if you know what I mean.....so I got the last of it the other day.....3 buckets of wheat, a case of #10 cans of dry milk, and another of spaghetti pasta.

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Hello Lars,
Seems we share a common interest....90 mil pickle bucket hunting in our respective Jeeps !!!! :wink::D Smell stuck to my headliner for A WEEK
man o man...
I almost mentioned the baking soda idea too but
I got offline in a hurry...that should help as well...
This week:
Qty 3 Wide Mouth Stanley Thermos, Ref: Thermos Cooking By Kurt Saxon
Qty 1 Vacuum Saver By Sorbent System
Mylar Bags
O2Absorbers
Sugar
Salt
This thread is a motivator like Agnuts' bartering one...
Haystackneedle

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Lars,

I totally understand why we're buying guns and ammo like crazy. That's why I just put the money into the ammo order as well as 20 high-cap mags (including 10 for an AR that I do not own yet, will be purchasing the Masada asap). I'm just expressing my shock at how everyone here seems to have a never ending supply of FRNs. I sometimes get the idea that a lot of people are mortgaging themselves to the hilt and running up all their credit cards to buy this stuff.

I bet that if I went through 2 months of these weekly updates a few of you would be upwards of $10-15,000 over that period. I certainly hope we can afford these preps (I know, we cannot afford to not have them either) because if TPTB decide things need to level out for a while, it could spell financial disaster for some.

I grew up near a church "compound" in Livingston MT in the late 80's and had friends whose families had to declair bankruptcy because of all the preps they were doing only to have the day the world was supposed to end be just like any other.

Hate to see that again.

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Several different guns including the CZ-52 and TT-33. I don't actually have one, but I'm buying a TT later this month.

AK-74. Great round and great weapon.

I don't buy that every week, or even every month. I do buy the sales and the order from AIMS was a impulse buy (they sold out in 24 hours so I had to pounce). I tend to buy my ammo in bulk and all at once, I'll be picking up a case of .223 in the next week or two and I'll be done for awhile. I don't buy ammo like that every week or even every month. That .32acp will last me the next 10 years probably, lol.

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Thanks Pro. I'm currently a straight 9mm and 7.62x39 guy but have been gathering 5.56 as I am very familiar with the AR platform and am planning on purchasing soon. (yes I will get around to .308 but not for a while...)

I've been looking at the CZ-82 for a while.

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

Wally World has it for 5 something for 2 lbs. I bought some yesterday along with some soap and BBQ sauce. Onto the shelves they go. They also had good sales on canned goods. Can use and easily replenish when they are due for rotation.

Re: Weekly Prep Thread 2 Mar - 8 Mar
 

I like my CZ82, good little gun. The FEG PA-63 (also 9x18) while being lower capacity is only 100 bucks and worth every penny.

As to .308 I'm recommending anyone not into it stay out of that caliber. It's simply way to expensive. About 2/3 higher priced than .223 and 3 times the price of 7.62x39.. it's over 4times the price of 5.45x39. I'm thinking about sellign some of my .308 and rebuying in 7.62, .223 or 5.45x39... it's simply not worth the price IMO. Not by a long shot.